I give. This: print 2, "Argh!" prints "Argh!" to stderr. And this: open I1, "foo.bar", "w" print I1, "Hi Mom\n" close I1 to create the file foo.bar and write "Hi Mom" to it. With a newline. I feel so... dirty now. :) Dan --------------------------------------"it's like this"------------------- Dan Sugalski even samurai dan@sidhe.org have teddy bears and even teddy bears get drunk